Drum Tower: The strangers next door

中日关系新拐点

Drum Tower

2023-07-04

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The conundrum of how to de-risk and deter conflict with China is puzzling the West. But one country is ahead in figuring out how to deal with a changing China: Japan. In the first episode of a two-part series, The Economist's senior China correspondent, Alice Su, and our Tokyo bureau chief, Noah Sneider, discuss how Japan sees China, and ask whether—after a tangled history of trade ties and territorial disputes—the Sino-Japanese relationship is at a turning-point. They speak to Aoki Shunichiro, a former director of Panasonic in Beijing, about how Japan's post-war guilt shaped its economic engagement with China. And Sasae Kenichiro, a former ambassador to America, explains why his warnings of a decade ago about Chinese expansionism and aggression were not heeded. Sign up to our weekly newsletter here and for full access to print, digital and audio editions, as well as exclusive live events, subscribe to The Economist at economist.com/drumoffer.
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  • The confrontation between China and America is one of the biggest stories today.

  • Western countries from Europe to the Indo-Pacific are discussing how to de-risk and deter conflict with China.

  • But one country has been ahead of the game in figuring out how to deal with a changing China,

  • and that's its neighbor, Japan.

  • I'm Alice Su, the Economist senior China correspondent,

  • and this week I'm joined by The Economist Tokyo bureau chief, Noah Snyder, for a two-part series on China and Japan.

  • This week, we're looking at how Japan realized that China was becoming a security risk years before the US did.

  • Next week, we'll be asking, how is Japan changing its policies towards China now?

  • This is Drum Tower from The Economist.

  • Noah, hello.

  • Welcome to Drum Tower.

  • Hey Alice, thanks for having me.

  • So, Noah, David is away this week, but I am excited to be doing this series with you,

  • especially after I saw you recently in person a few weeks ago

  • when I was in Tokyo on a work trip, although on the side of the work,

  • we did have a lot of very good and reasonably priced sushi.

  • It is one of the great joys of being a correspondent in Japan

  • when you can take people out to lunch, call it a work lunch and have sushi at the same time.

  • But it's great to be on Drum Tower.

  • Longtime listener, first-time caller I guess you might say.