I'm David Marchese. And I'm Lulu Garcia Navarro.
And we're the hosts of The Interview from The New York Times.
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Which means we know when to ask tough questions and when to just sit back and listen.
And now we've teamed up to have these conversations every week.
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This is The Daily.
It's now conventional wisdom that Donald Trump has transformed American politics.
But a county-by-county voting analysis from The Times covering the last four presidential races shows just how drastically Trump has changed the electoral map.
Today, the reporter who conducted that analysis, Shane Goldmacher,
on why it's a five-alarm fire for the Democrats and the debate within the party over what to do about it.
It's Tuesday, June 3rd.
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