Understanding Xi: Is China’s President a Threat to the World? (Part One)

Intelligence Squared

2025-06-01

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This event is part of our Age of the Strongman series. Click here to see the other events in the series. President Xi Jinping has ruled China for more than a decade. He has overseen an era of unprecedented economic prosperity, cracked down on dissidents, reinvented national identity in his own image and adopted a confrontational ‘wolf warrior’ style of diplomacy on the world stage. Xi has also abolished term limits as President of the Communist Party and it’s possible that he will remain China’s all-powerful leader for the rest of his life. So what motivates the leader of the world’s most populous nation? What is his vision for China and the world? How much should the West push back and how much should it cooperate with Xi? In May 2025, Rana Mitter, renowned historian at Harvard Kennedy School and previously the Director of The University of Oxford’s China Centre, came to Intelligence Squared for the next event in our new series, The Age of the Strongman. Drawing on his work and recent book China’s Good War: How World War II is Shaping a New Nationalism, Mitter examined the key tenets of Xi’s political ideology, and how his cult of personality and military posturing in the Indo-Pacific will play out in 2025 and beyond. The event was hosted by Gideon Rachman. ---- This is the first instalment of a two-part episode. If you'd like to become a Member and get access to all our full ad free conversations, plus all of our Members-only content, just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. For £4.99 per month you'll also receive: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared episodes, wherever you get your podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series - 15% discount on livestreams and in-person tickets for all Intelligence Squared events  ...  Or Subscribe on Apple for £4.99: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series … Already a subscriber? Thank you for supporting our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations! Visit intelligencesquared.com to explore all your benefits including ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content and early access. … Subscribe to our newsletter here to hear about our latest events, discounts and much more. https://www.intelligencesquared.com/newsletter-signup/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet.

  • I'm producer Mia Sorrenti, and I'm joined today by head of programming, Conor Boyle.

  • So, Conor, what can we expect from today's episode?

  • Well, Mia, today is the second installment of our Age of the Strongman series,

  • which is a series both you and I have been working on,

  • exploring the leaders shaping our world in 2025.

  • Listeners may have heard the first one with Understanding Putin,

  • and this one is about Understanding Xi, obviously the leader of China.

  • And we were really...

  • Blessed to have Rana Mitter, who many listeners will have heard on the podcast before,

  • joining us in London to discuss the ways in which Xi is shaping not only China,

  • but the rest of the world and will do in the years ahead.

  • As last time, this discussion was hosted by the incredible Gideon Rackman,

  • who's the chief foreign affairs commentator for the FT.

  • So why did we want to make sure that the second installment of the series was so focused on Xi Jinping?

  • Well, I think a lot of media attention,

  • understandably, has been around Putin and Trump in recent months.

  • But no one can forget Xi.

  • probably the most powerful, if not one of the most powerful leaders in the world.

  • And his rise as a strongman leader, our host Gideon Rackman,