How economics wins wars, with Duncan Weldon

经济学如何赢得战争,与邓肯·韦伦对话

The Economics Show

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2025-06-02

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Churchill never said “we will fight them in the spreadsheets…”. But maybe he should have done. The second world war, like every other war in human history, was decided by how each side allocated its resources. In this episode, Duncan Weldon, author of the new book ‘Blood and Treasure, The Economics of Conflict from the Vikings to Ukraine’, explains how countries have historically thought about the economics of war – and how the Ukraine war is changing that. He and host Soumaya Keynes also discuss how conflict shaped economic institutions and the modern world. Subscribe to Soumaya's show on Apple, Spotify, Pocket Casts or wherever you listen. Further reading:  Vladimir Putin’s war economy is cooling, but Russians still feel richer: https://www.ft.com/content/485aba41-1148-4f2c-b0ab-97aac5e50727  Russia’s war economy fuels rustbelt revival: https://www.ft.com/content/559ca59f-7fdc-4c47-8e87-edb562acdc7b    Defence spending is up – but on all the wrong things: https://www.ft.com/content/11a6b844-fe57-4e39-86ba-bb04e839bf2f  Presented by Soumaya Keynes. Produced by Mischa Frankl-Duval. Flo Phillips is the executive producer. Original music and sound design by Breen Turner. The FT’s acting co-head of audio is Manuela Saragosa. Read a transcript of this episode on FT.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • War means politics, bloodshed, and misery.

  • It also means economics.

  • If you're going to fight,

  • you had best be sure you know how you're going to finance the fighting.

  • And of course, economic strength can give you an advantage on the battlefield.

  • So economics shapes war.

  • But how does war shape economies?

  • And how has the economics of war changed over time?

  • Duncan Weldon is an economics writer and broadcaster, and a former colleague of mine.

  • He's also a massive economics history nerd.

  • And most importantly, he's the author of a new book,

  • Blood and Treasure, The Economics of Conflict from the Vikings to Ukraine.

  • This is The Economics Show.

  • I'm Samaya Caines, and I'm here in our London studio with Duncan.

  • Duncan, welcome.

  • Thank you for having me.

  • Okay, so...

  • On a scale of 1 to 10, how important is economics for war?

  • So 1 is completely irrelevant.

  • 10 is they are the same thing.