Welcome to The World in 10.
In an increasingly uncertain world, this is The Times,
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Today with me, Laura Cook and Tom Noonan.
The confusion around what is going on with Donald Trump's tariffs looks
like it's going to continue.
The White House has launched its legal challenge to the ruling by the Court of International Trade in New York,
which voided them.
An appeal ruling now means they are back on,
at least for the moment, while that case is heard.
Of course, this legal back and forth will be watched closely in Beijing,
given China has faced the most punishing tariffs on those reciprocal measures and on fentanyl.
Now,
confusion and day-by-day changes seems an anathema to the Chinese Communist Party with its five-year plans and long-term strategies.
But can China actually benefit from the legal battles in the US?
Our guest today is The Times' China correspondent, Richard Spencer.
Richard.
How does this legal back and forth around tariffs affect China?
It affects China in numerous ways.
I mean,