Inside Ukraine’s plan to jam - and destroy - Putin’s drones

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  Welcome to The World in 10.

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  In an increasingly uncertain world,

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  this is The Times' daily podcast dedicated to global security.

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  I'm Toby Gillis with Laura Cook.

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  Last weekend's incessant drone attack by Russia into Ukraine's major cities hit new levels

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  since the start of the war.

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  The besieged country is now struggling to quicken its efforts to increase its defence against them.

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  The Times' Maxim Tucker has seen firsthand the technological developments that they're using in that quest.

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  And Maxim joins us from Kiev now.

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  Maxim, firstly, can you explain how the use of drones has increased throughout the war?

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  So Russia has obviously massively ramped up its production of long-range drones,

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  particularly these Iranian-designed Shah head missiles.

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  It's adapted them, it's improved them.

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  And they were able to launch this incredible barrage last weekend.

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  And they used something like, you know,

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  over a thousand drones in the course of three days,

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  suggesting that they're now a kind of mass production.

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  And these drones are designed to overwhelm,

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  saturate Kiev's defences and the defence of other cities to use up all of the kind of expensive Western provided missiles that they have,

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  obviously.

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