José Mujica: Guerilla, president and occasional romantic

何塞·穆希卡:游击队员、总统和偶尔的浪漫主义者

Lives Less Ordinary

2025-05-26

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Remembering the former president of Uruguay: José 'Pepe' Mujica. He started life as a flower farmer on the outskirts of Montevideo. As a young man he became politically active, part of the left-wing guerilla group the Tupamaros, who were bent on revolution through armed struggle that involved bank heists and kidnappings. With the authorities on his tail Pepe was eventually captured, he was shot six times and later staged what became a record-breaking prison escape. When he was captured and imprisoned again, he was held for 13 years in horrendous conditions but he says the pain and loneliness of that time was when he learned the most about life. A year after the military regime stepped down, Pepe was released and joined formal politics and in 2010 he was voted in as president of Uruguay. He shunned the presidential palace and car for his crumbling farmhouse and old VW Beetle and brought in laws legalising gay marriage and abortion. He had his critics but when he died earlier this month, thousands of people lined the streets to pay their respects. We spoke to Pepe alongside his wife Lucia Topolansky in 2023 and they talked about how their love had changed over their decades together. Presenter: Andrea Kennedy Producer: Louise Morris Get in touch: liveslessordinary@bbc.co.uk or WhatsApp: 0044 330 678 2784
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  • How often do you get to hear a former president speak about the nature of love like this?

  • I have to be grateful for life.

  • Grateful that I am alive.

  • Because I have Lucia by my side, who helps me to live.

  • Love when you're young, it's a bonfire.

  • It's a whirlwind.

  • Love, when you're an old man, is a sweet habit.

  • For that, I feel grateful.

  • José Mujica, or Pepe, as he prefers to be called, burned bright in life.

  • When he died earlier this month at the age of 89, the people of Uruguay came out in force.

  • For eight kilometres,

  • the streets were lined with people wanting to pay their respects as his coffin passed by.

  • You're listening to Lives Less Ordinary from the BBC World Service.

  • I'm Andrea Kennedy.

  • Pepe Mujica led the most extraordinary life, bringing landmark changes to his country,

  • making headlines for shunning presidential palaces and cars,

  • for his single-storey cottage and old clapped-out VW.

  • As a younger man, he'd earned himself a world record for the largest ever prison escape.

  • And the reason he ended up in prison is that before that,

  • he was a leader of an urban guerrilla movement which took up arms to bring down a government.