What does China want from the US? With Jay Shambaugh

中国希望从美国得到什么?与Jay Shambaugh探讨

The Economics Show

2025-05-26

31 分钟
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The tit-for-tat tariff escalations between the US and China are on pause, at least temporarily. But if the world’s two biggest economies don’t make progress by July, they could return with a vengeance. How can the two parties make progress? And what does China actually want from the US? Soumaya Keynes speaks to Jay Shambaugh to find out. Shambaugh was the US Treasury’s undersecretary for international affairs under Joe Biden. In other words, he was in charge of the US’s economic relationship with China. He and Soumaya discuss how the Trump administration could negotiate with China, and how interwoven trade policy and national security have become. Further reading: Will Trump’s tariff climbdown save the US from recession? The markets are declaring tariff victory too soon US-China trade war is pushing Asian nations to pick sides, ministers warn Subscribe to The Economics Show on Apple, Spotify, Pocket Casts or wherever you listen.  Presented by Soumaya Keynes. Produced by Mischa Frankl-Duval. Flo Phillips is the executive producer. Original music and sound design by Breen Turner. The FT’s acting co-head of audio is Manuela Saragosa. Read a transcript of this episode on FT.com Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • Trade relations between China and the U.S. are tense.

  • Chinese embassy spokesman Liu Pengyu striking a defiant tone in a statement today saying

  • if the U.S. is bent on waging a trade war,

  • China will fight to the end.

  • A truce forged in Switzerland has lowered tariffs, for now.

  • But if negotiators can't get an agreement by August,

  • who knows where they will end up.

  • Through the 90-day period, things are going to return to some semblance of normalcy,

  • but people should be wary because that's not going to last for too long.

  • So what are the biggest sticking points in a U.S.-China relationship?

  • What's it like to negotiate with the Chinese?

  • And where are the trade wars headed?

  • My guest today can answer all these questions.

  • Jay Shambaugh served as the U.S.

  • Treasury's Undersecretary for International Affairs under President Joe Biden.

  • In other words, he was the U.S.'s chief economic and finance diplomat.

  • Who better to speak to about the world's biggest economic bust-up?

  • This is The Economics Show.

  • I'm Samaya Caines, and I'm here with Jay.

  • Jay, welcome to the show.