Trump's Russia weak spot gives Putin an opportunity

特朗普的俄罗斯软肋给了普京一个机会

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2025-05-22

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With Vladimir Putin continuing to dangle the carrot of peace talks with Ukraine, seemingly with little intention of taking part, the World in 10 asks why he's dragging it out, how long he can do it for, and what Donald Trump can do to force him to the table. European and transatlantic security expert, Edward Lucas, argues that there is a bigger picture for Russia's president, that the longer hope continues, the more he can divide Europe and the US which might present an opportunity for a tempting attack on a NATO member. The World in 10 is the Times' daily podcast dedicated to global security. Expert analysis of war, diplomatic relations and cyber security from The Times' foreign correspondents and military specialists.  Watch more Read more Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • Welcome to The World in 10.

  • In an increasingly uncertain world, this is The Times' daily podcast dedicated to global security.

  • I'm Stuart Willey, today with Toby Gillis.

  • We're 121 days past a one-time deadline set by Donald Trump for him ending the fighting in Ukraine.

  • The will-he-won't-he question around whether Vladimir Putin will sit down for peace talks continues,

  • and there's no sign of a definitive answer.

  • So what's his strategy?

  • How long can he draw the situation out?

  • And is there anything that can be done to bring the Russian president to the table?

  • Our guest today is Edward Lucas, a specialist in European and transatlantic security,

  • whose latest article for The Times explores whether Trump's turmoil gives Putin a chance to strike NATO.

  • Edward, we'll come to that in a moment.

  • But first, do you think Putin is deluding himself here?

  • He's making... slow progress to say the least in Ukraine,

  • he can't possibly think he can still achieve his original objective.

  • This is the big chance to reverse the great geopolitical setback of 1989-91.

  • And he sees that the West is divided and the European bit of the West is not really ready to stand up to him either in Ukraine or anywhere else.

  • So he's got a window of opportunity with Ukraine on the back foot militarily and the West in disarray,

  • and he's going to exploit it.

  • How does dragging out the idea he might but might not come to talks do that?