Tariff Special: The Intelligence Squared Economic Outlook with Helen Thompson (Part One)

关税特别篇:海伦·汤普森谈《智平方经济展望》(第一部分)

Intelligence Squared

2025-05-18

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‘The world as we knew it is gone’ – UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer’s response to Trump’s tariffs President Donald Trump recently announced a 90-day pause for his monumental ‘liberation day’ tariffs while at the same time escalating a dangerous trade war with China. Trump’s announcement came just weeks after import taxes on all goods entering the US were introduced, in the biggest upheaval of international trade in decades. And beyond the chaos and endless news cycle of the last few days, Trump’s key advisers are introducing a broader set of fringe economic ideas that they believe will transform politics and economics at home, as well as the foundations of US power abroad. In May 2025, Helen Thompson, expert on the long history of globalisation and author of the acclaimed book Disorder: Hard Times in the 21st Century came to Intelligence Squared to make sense of the seismic shifts we are witnessing in the global economy and how they will impact us here in the UK. She was joined on stage by BBC broadcaster Jonny Dymond for this event in our Intelligence Squared Economic Outlook series in partnership with Guinness Global Investors. This recording is part of The Intelligence Squared Economic Outlook series of events made in partnership with Guinness Global Investors, an independent British fund manager that helps both individuals and institutions harness the future drivers of growth to achieve their investment goals. To find out more visit: https://www.guinnessgi.com/ ------- This is the first instalment of a two-part episode. If you'd like to become a Member and get access to all our full ad free conversations, plus all of our Members-only content, just visit intelligencesquared.com/membership to find out more. For £4.99 per month you'll also receive: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared episodes, wherever you get your podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series - 15% discount on livestreams and in-person tickets for all Intelligence Squared events  ...  Or Subscribe on Apple for £4.99: - Full-length and ad-free Intelligence Squared podcasts - Bonus Intelligence Squared podcasts, curated feeds and members exclusive series … Already a subscriber? Thank you for supporting our mission to foster honest debate and compelling conversations! Visit intelligencesquared.com to explore all your benefits including ad-free podcasts, exclusive bonus content and early access. … Subscribe to our newsletter here to hear about our latest events, discounts and much more. https://www.intelligencesquared.com/newsletter-signup/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet.

  • I'm producer Mia Sorrenti, and I'm joined today by Head of Programming, Connor Boyle.

  • Connor, what can we expect from today's episode?

  • Well, today, Mia, we've got tariffs, tariffs and more tariffs.

  • I suppose the biggest thing that's happened in the economy in the last few months has been the return of Donald Trump to the White House and his desire to,

  • as he sees it, stop the rest of the world exploiting the United States in terms of trade policy.

  • So I know you were originally in touch with Helen Thompson.

  • We're going to do an energy special about global energy.

  • But I suppose we kind of if we're going to do an economic outlook kind of has to be about tariffs.

  • Yeah, absolutely.

  • So this event was actually part of our Economic Outlook series,

  • which is in partnership with Guinness Global Investors.

  • But we thought, like Connor said, for this installment,

  • we were speaking to the political economist Helen Thompson,

  • and it seemed like we could speak about nothing else.

  • For this installment of the series, you know, Helen is an expert on kind of globalization.

  • Like you said as well, she is really into kind of the political economy of energy.

  • And she's also the author of this book called Disorder, Hard Times in the 21st Century.

  • So we thought it was great to have someone who had that kind of historical overview to kind of give some...

  • context to these developments and how Trump's next actions might impact us going forward this year.