NATS and the CNCF kerfuffle (Interview)

NATS与CNCF的纷争(访谈)

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source

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2025-05-17

1 小时 36 分钟
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Derek Collison — creator of NATS and Co-founder & CEO of Synadia — joins the show to dive into the origins, design, and evolution of NATS, a high-performance, open-source messaging system built for modern cloud-native systems and part of the CNCF. Derek shares the story behind NATS, what makes it unique, and unpacks the recent tensions between Synadia and the CNCF over the future of the project.
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  • Well, friends, this is your favorite podcast, The Change Log.

  • Yes, we talk to the hackers, the leaders and those building the future of software.

  • Today, we're joined by Derek Collison.

  • Derek is the co-founder and CEO of Synedia.

  • He's also the creator of Nats.

  • For the uninitiated, Nats is a high performance open source messaging system.

  • designed for cloud-native distributed systems.

  • And today, Derek walks us through what it took to create NAT, where it came from,

  • how they eventually decided to form a company around NAT called Synadia to offer this to enterprises and more.

  • Derek also shares the behind the scenes of the recent kerfuffle between NAT and CNCF.

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