#define: I'm going pants (Friends)

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The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source

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2025-05-17

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Welcome back to #define, our game of obscure jargon, fake definitions, and expert tomfoolery. We've gathered some awesome friends, new and old, to see who has the best vocabulary and who can trick the everyone else into thinking that they do.
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  • to changelog and friends a weekly talk show about osobuna thanks to our partners at fly.io the public cloud built for developers who ship we love fly you might too learn all about it at fly.io okay let's play Well,

  • friends, I'm here with Terrence Lee talking about what's coming for the next generation of Heroku.

  • They're calling this next gen Fur.

  • Terrence, one of the biggest moves for Fur in this next generation of Heroku,

  • it's being built on open standards and cloud native.

  • What can you share about this journey?

  • If you look at the last half a decade or so, like there's been a lot that's changed in the industry.

  • A lot of the 12 factorisms that have been popularized and are well accepted.

  • even outside the Ruby community, are things that are,

  • think table stakes for building modern applications, right?

  • And so being able to take all those things from kind of 10, 14 years ago,

  • being able to revisit and be like, okay, we helped popularize a lot of these things.

  • We now don't need to be our own island of this stuff.

  • And it's just better to be part of the broader ecosystem.

  • Like you said, since Heroku's existence, there's been people who've been trying to rebuild Heroku.

  • I feel like there's a good Kelsey quote, when are we going to stop trying to rebuild Heroku?

  • It's like people...

  • keep trying to like build their own version of heroku like internally at their own company let alone the public offerings out there i mean i feel like uh heroku's been the gold standard yeah i mean i i think it's the gold standard

  • because uh there's a thing that like heroku's hit this like piece of magic around developer experience but giving you enough flexibility and power to do what you need to do okay so part of fur and this next generation of heroku is adding support

  • for dot net what can you share about that why dot net And why now?