Autism, empathy and psychopaths

自闭症、同理心与心理变态者

The Documentary Podcast

2025-05-15

28 分钟
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Autistic people have been thought to all lack empathy by both science and society for decades. But after receiving an extremely low empathy score as part of a recent autism assessment, science journalist Sue Nelson decided to confront these damaging stereotypes and question the experts who work in this area. Sue’s investigation reveals latest research shows the opposite of the commonly held stereotype. Instead of the majority of autistic people having low to no empathy, a trait commonly associated with psychopaths, many autistic people have been shown to have heightened empathy for others. Guests include Professor Simon Baron-Cohen, a pioneer in the field who originated the EQ (Empathy Quotient) test widely used in autism assessments, and a team of autistic researchers investigating the newly recognised phenomenon of autistic ‘hyper-empathy’.
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  • Welcome to the documentary from the BBC World Service.

  • I'm Sue Nelson, exploring autism, empathy and psychopaths.

  • I want you to listen to a couple of statements and think about whether you agree with them or not.

  • Here's the first.

  • I can easily tell if someone else is interested or bored with what I'm saying.

  • And the second.

  • If anyone asked me if I liked their haircut, I would reply truthfully, even if I didn't like it.

  • How did you get on?

  • Personally,

  • I find it hard to tell

  • if someone's bored when I'm talking and would tell the truth about someone's haircut.

  • So what does this say about me?

  • Because these questions are taken from a test used in many countries around the world to measure someone's empathy,

  • which is generally understood to be an ability to understand the feelings of others.

  • It's a standard part of an adult autism assessment,

  • something I did almost five years ago and discovered at the age of 60 that I was autistic.

  • My diagnosis was a big surprise, but the real shock was the result of the empathy test,