What's up?
Nice to meet you guys.
Thanks for having us, Joe.
Thanks for coming here.
I'm all happy, but this is not a happy subject.
I don't know.
Back in October, podcaster Joe Rogan featured a brother and sister duo on a show.
People want to be healthy.
There's a huge system rigged against them.
Casey and Callie Means are big in the wellness space.
Casey, the sister, is a medical doctor.
The brother, Callie, is a former food lobbyist.
They each co-founded startups related to health.
People know that something's not right,
and people know that this health issue is the tip of the iceberg.
Casey Means is one of the more influential figures in the Make America Healthy Again movement.
That's our colleague Christina Peterson.
She's been covering the Maha movement closely.
She...
kind of came to prominence last year when she and her brother wrote this book called Good Energy that is sort of examining the root causes for why America is not as healthy