We're living in interesting times, a turning point in history.
Are we entering a dark authoritarian era?
Or are we on the brink of a technological golden age or the apocalypse?
No one really knows, but I'm trying to find out.
From New York Times Opinion, I'm Ross Douthat.
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Hi, this is Jason Horowitz, the Rome bureau chief of the New York Times,
and I'm here in St. Peter's Square looking up at the roof of the Sistine Chapel where cardinals are inside voting on who the next pope should be.
Like everybody else,
I'm looking at a chimney surrounded by seagulls and trying to figure out
if anything's coming out of it and if it's smoke,
if it's black smoke.
they have an inconclusive vote, or if it is white smoke, which means we have a pope.
So there's white smoke in the square, and I'm running back to file the story.
But once again, white smoke, a new pope.
From the New York Times, I'm Michael Barbaro.
This is The Daily.
Today, the world's 1.4 billion Catholics now have a new pope.