The Art of the Doll

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Radio Atlantic

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2025-05-08

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Recently, Donald Trump mused that “maybe the children will have two dolls instead of 30 dolls, you know?” We talk with a doll manufacturer and a policy analyst about tariffs and Americans’ relationship with choice. Elenor Mak, founder of Jilly Bing, talks about her dream of giving Asian American kids the choice of having a doll that looks like them, and how the new tariffs might kill it. And Martha Gimbel, executive director of the Budget Lab at Yale, discusses the problem with this particular variety of two-doll nostalgia. Get more from your favorite Atlantic voices when you subscribe. You’ll enjoy unlimited access to Pulitzer-winning journalism, from clear-eyed analysis and insight on breaking news to fascinating explorations of our world. Subscribe today at TheAtlantic.com/podsub. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • Last week, at a cabinet meeting,

  • while answering a question about tariffs, President Donald Trump mentioned dolls.

  • Now, this wasn't any deep social commentary, just an offhand statement.

  • But it did get me thinking about how kids today, including my own, Do you have a million dolls?

  • Versus, say, when I was a kid.

  • Do you remember your first doll?

  • Oh, of course.

  • My first doll was Ada.

  • I took Ada with me everywhere, like to the park, to dim sum.

  • I tried to bring her to school.

  • But I also remember she was beautiful in a way that I felt I never could be.

  • This is Eleanor Mack.

  • She had these...

  • Beautiful blonde curl.

  • She had big blue eyes.

  • She had that porcelain skin.

  • And even then, you know, I think I was, you know,

  • somewhere five or six years old, remember thinking, like, I wish I looked like Ada.

  • When Eleanor was a kid, like when I was a kid, what she didn't have was that much choice.

  • But even after Eleanor grew up and had her own kids, the options were still pretty meh.