What ‘Conclave’ gets right about choosing the next pope

《闭门会议》如何正确地选择下任教皇

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2025-05-07

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Cardinals will gather on Wednesday for the highly secretive process of choosing a new pope, following the death of Pope Francis in late April. In the film “Conclave,” Ralph Fiennes plays a Catholic cardinal presiding over the election of a new pope. In real life, that task falls to Cardinal Pietro Parolin, a possible front-runner among papal candidates at this week’s conclave at the Vatican. But how accurately does the Oscar-nominated “Conclave” match an actual conclave — the process of electing a pope that will begin May 7?  Today on “Post Reports,” style reporter Shane O’Neill joins host Colby Itkowitz to parse fact from fiction.  Today’s episode was produced by Rennie Svirnovskiy, with help from Ariel Plotnick and Peter Bresnan. It was mixed by Sam Bair and edited by Lucy Perkins. Thanks to Carla Spartos.  Subscribe to The Washington Post here.
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  • When Pope Francis died last month, I immediately thought back to earlier this year,

  • when my husband and I watched the movie Conclave on our couch and felt

  • like we became experts in the process of selecting a new pope.

  • And it turns out, we aren't alone.

  • Oh, I mean, everyone is re-watching Conclave, or at least everyone in my nerdy circle of friends.

  • Shane O'Neill is a style reporter for The Post.

  • He recently wrote about the movie Conclave versus the real-life Conclave.

  • Everything you'd want in a juicy,

  • episodic story is kind of packed into the movie Conclave and, to some extent, the actual Conclave.

  • To some extent.

  • From the newsroom of The Washington Post, this is Post Reports.

  • I'm Colby Ickowitz.

  • It's Tuesday, May 6th.

  • Today, before the real Conclave begins Wednesday,

  • I talk with Shane about what the movie version got right and wrong about the process,

  • why it has struck such a chord with viewers, and what it says about religious and political power.

  • Hi, Shane.

  • Thanks for being here.

  • It is such a pleasure.

  • So, Shane, we're going to talk about Conclave,