When life gives you LLMs... (Friends)

当生活给了你大型语言模型...(朋友们)

The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source

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2025-05-03

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Our old friend, Zeno Rocha, returns to discuss email etiquette, the strange new world of AI SEO, the coming LLM enshittification, and SLATE Auto – the just-announced $20k modular EV truck.
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  • Welcome to Changelog and Friends, a weekly talk show about modular EV trucks.

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  • Okay, let's talk.

  • Well, friends,

  • I'm here with Terrence Lee talking about what's coming for the next generation of Heroku.

  • They're calling this next gen fur.

  • Terrence, one of the biggest moves for fur in this next generation of Heroku,

  • it's being built on open standards and cloud native.

  • What can you share about this journey?

  • If you look at the last.

  • half a decade or so like there's been a lot that's changed in the industry a lot of the 12 factorisms that have been popularized and are well accepted uh even outside the ruby community are things that are think table stakes for building modern applications right and so being able to take all those things from kind of 10 14 years ago being able to revisit and be like okay we helped popularize a lot of these things we now don't need to be our own island of this stuff and it's just better to be part of the broader ecosystem

  • like you said since heroic I mean,

  • I feel like Heroku's been the gold standard.

  • Yeah, I mean, I think it's the gold standard because there's a thing...

  • that like Roku's hit this like piece of magic around developer experience,

  • but giving you enough flexibility and power to do what you need to do.

  • Okay, so part of Fur and this next generation of Roku is adding support for .NET.

  • What can you share about that?