Herman Pontzer: what people get wrong about metabolism

赫尔曼·庞茨:人们对新陈代谢的误解

Economist Podcasts

2025-04-30

35 分钟
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Do you run, cycle or swim to lose weight? Herman Pontzer, an evolutionary anthropologist who specialises in understanding how humans use energy, thinks you’re probably wasting your time. His idea of the “exercise paradox” suggests that the amount of energy people use in a day is constrained (by evolution) and that exercising more doesn’t end up burning more calories. Figuring out why our bodies work like this is part of Prof Pontzer’s bigger project to map out and better understand how evolution has shaped variations in human biology.  Hosts: Alok Jha, The Economist’s science and technology editor. Contributor: Herman Pontzer, professor of evolutionary anthropology and global health at Duke University and the author of “Burn” and “Adaptable”. Transcripts of our podcasts are available via economist.com/podcasts. Listen to what matters most, from global politics and business to science and technology—subscribe to Economist Podcasts+. For more information about how to access Economist Podcasts+, please visit our FAQs page or watch our video explaining how to link your account. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • The Economist.

  • This week, we'll be talking about the human body.

  • In particular, how the body uses energy.

  • I'm going to be speaking with a researcher who I've been fascinated by for a very long time.

  • To explain why, I'll need to take you back to my childhood.

  • Now, I was a pretty healthy but also pretty chubby kid.

  • And for as long as I've had control over what I eat, I'm talking about after leaving home here,

  • I've been hyper aware of ways to keep my weight and various edible temptations at bay.

  • So I followed various fad diets over time, including at one point the original low-carb Atkins diet.

  • And I've also spent a lot of time in gyms, on exercise bikes, cross trainers.

  • I even tried out a spin class once and ended up vomiting straight afterwards.

  • Never doing that again.

  • Sometimes these diet and fitness regimes worked,

  • but mostly they didn't because they were so hard to stick to.

  • I did plough on though because through years as a science and health writer and speaking to many,

  • many scientists,

  • I had learned that to stay healthy involved watching what you eat and also making sure to move around a lot more.

  • That was the science that had been ingrained into me.

  • The only thing that mattered

  • if you wanted to maintain a healthy weight was calories in versus calories out.