Unstoppable: Kura Paul-Burke

势不可挡:库拉·保罗-伯克

Discovery

科学

2025-04-29

26 分钟
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Dr Julia Ravey and Dr Ella Hubber are both scientists, but it turns out there’s a lot they don’t know about the women that came before them. In Unstoppable, Julia and Ella tell each other the hidden, world-shaping stories of the scientists, engineers and innovators that they wish they’d known about when they were starting out in science. This week, a Māori marine scientist is combining indigenous knowledge with marine science to save the oceans that are so integral to her heritage. Growing up in 1970s New Zealand, Kura-Paul Burke faced stigma due to her Māori roots. But, after finding herself studying marine science as an adult, Kura leaned on her heritage to take on a problem where many had already failed: restoring a lost population of precious, green-lipped mussels. Discover how Māori ancestresses, tribal elders and centuries-old knowledge inspired the ingenious methods of Aotearoa's first female Māori professor of marine science. Presenters: Ella Hubber and Julia Ravey Guest Speaker: Dr Kura Paul-Burke Producers: Ella Hubber and Julia Ravey Assistant Producers: Sophie Ormiston, Anna Charalambou and Josie Hardy Sound Designer: Ella Roberts Production Coordinator: Ishmael Soriano Editor: Holly Squire (Image: Dr Kura Paul-Burke. Credit: Dr Kura Paul-Burke)
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  • In the beginning, the Sky Father, Ranginui, and the Earth Mother, Papatuanuku,

  • were locked in a tight embrace, and their children lived in the dark space in between them.

  • One day, their son, Tanenui Arangi, pushed his parents apart, creating the separate Earth and Sky.

  • But following their separation, this newly created world was dark,

  • and Tanenui Arangi... needed to find a source of light to illuminate it.

  • So he looked towards the sky and found the smallest, most fragile star called Hine Roamoa.

  • They came together and had a daughter, the goddess of childbirth and weaving.

  • And she would inspire a method to help save the oceans in the 21st century.

  • I thought of Hine te Iwiwa.

  • One of my tribes was a matriarchal tribe, so it just made sense.

  • that we would look to female ancestors to help guide our work.

  • I'm Julia Ravey.

  • And I'm Ella Hubber.

  • We're scientists turned radio presenters.

  • And these are the stories we wish we'd known when we were starting out as scientists.

  • This is Unstoppable for Discovery on the BBC World Service.

  • Today's story is all about combining the old with the new to help solve problems caused by our modern day society and how one particular researcher has fully embraced her culture in an effort to save our oceans.

  • And her name is Cora Paul-Burke.

  • So this story all begins with the source and foundation of all life.

  • What would you say, Ella, is your foundation of life?