A Whistleblower Takes on DOGE

一位告密者挑战DOGE

Up First

2025-04-27

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NPR's cybersecurity correspondent Jenna McLaughlin recently broke a story about a whistleblower inside the federal government who says DOGE representatives appear to have taken sensitive data, then covered their tracks. Daniel Berulis works for the National Labor Relations Board and he has shared evidence that DOGE engineers disabled security protocols, exported reams of sensitive data and used a "hacker's toolkit" to hide their activities. And he thinks his agency is not alone. Today on The Sunday Story, what this possible breach could mean for the private data of millions of Americans. Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices NPR Privacy Policy
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  • I'm Ayesha Roscoe, and this is a Sunday Story from Up First.

  • And today, we've got a big one.

  • Recently,

  • NPR reporter Jenna McLaughlin broke open a huge story about a whistleblower from inside the federal government.

  • His name is Daniel Barulis, and for him, it all started on a Friday at the end of February.

  • I remember the moment vividly.

  • I was at home, and I got a call from my boss saying, hey.

  • My boss wants us to come in next week.

  • It's possible Doge will show up.

  • On Monday,

  • he sees a black SUV with a police escort pull into the parking garage at their office in D.C.

  • Daniel didn't speak to anyone in the SUV,

  • but he assumes it was members of the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOJ.

  • He'd been hearing about DOJ showing up with police escorts around town,

  • and based on that call with his boss, he was expecting them to arrive that day.

  • They didn't want to interface with us, the admins.

  • They wanted...

  • System access to the cloud.

  • That's what they were there for.

  • And access to the cloud they got.