Hello, and welcome to Forever 35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves.
I'm Dori Shafriyer.
And I'm Elise Hugh, and we are two friends who like to talk a lot about serums.
Welcome back.
Welcome back to the show.
We have a great show for you today.
We do.
We're so excited you're here.
We are helping welcome new listeners to the show because I learned
that this is one of the tricks of Mel Robbins,
who has now surpassed Joe Rogan in the podcast, Listener Rankings.
And one of the things she does really well is welcome new listeners.
And so, hello.
This is a full-length Monday episode where we interview someone of note or lots of writers,
lots of other luminaries, like we do musicians and comedians, but often a lot of writers.
And today we're going to have a great writer on the show named Annie Hartnett,
who we will introduce after we catch up because we have some catching up to do.
We do.
Well, Elise,
you just pointed out