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The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source

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2025-04-19

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Nick Nisi joins us to confess his AI subscription glut, drool over some cool new hardware gadgets, discuss why the TypeScript team chose Go for their new compiler, opine on the React team's complicated relationship with Vercel, suggest people try Astro, update us on his browser habits, and more.
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  • Welcome to Changelog and Friends, a weekly talk show about AI subscription fatigue.

  • Thanks as always to our partners at Fly.io, the public cloud built for developers who ship.

  • If you ship like we do, maybe ship where we do at Fly.io.

  • Let's talk.

  • Well, friends, I'm here with David Hsu, CEO of Retool.

  • David, I want to talk about awareness beyond Silicon Valley.

  • Retool has a great presence and a great awareness inside Silicon Valley.

  • But what about beyond?

  • What's really cool is I think we've done a really good job of building awareness inside Silicon Valley.

  • And so when you look at customers that use Retool,

  • pretty much every big company in Silicon Valley above a thousand people today now uses Retool and builds internal apps via Retool.

  • So that's really awesome.

  • And I'm really proud of the progress you've made there.

  • But I think the larger opportunity for us, actually, it's outside of Silicon Valley.

  • When you think about, for example, the Kroger's of the world.

  • the Coca-Cola's of the world.

  • Many of them are customers already today,

  • but I think we haven't done as good of a job building awareness,

  • if you will, around the developers and all these companies.

  • And that to me is where the opportunity lies because so much of these companies run on software.