How the ‘world’s coolest dictator’ is helping Trump

“世界最酷独裁者”如何助特朗普一臂之力

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2025-04-18

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Justin and Sumi take a closer look into the deepening relationship between Donald Trump and El Salvador’s President Nayib Bukele, as the row over the deportation of migrants to the Central American country escalates. Could the Trump administration run into further trouble with the law over its handling of the situation? And, what's in it for Bukele? Plus, what else have we missed in the news cycle? Sumi shares one story at the US-Mexico border that’s flown under the radar this week. HOSTS: - Justin Webb, Radio 4 presenter - Sumi Somaskanda, Chief Presenter in Washington GET IN TOUCH: - Join our online community: https://discord.gg/qSrxqNcmRB - Send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp to +44 330 123 9480 - Email Americast@bbc.co.uk - Or use #Americast This episode was made by Chris Flynn with Rufus Gray, Claire Betzer and Grace Reeve. The technical producer was Ben Andrews. The series producer was Chris Flynn. The senior news editor is Sam Bonham. If you want to be notified every time we publish a new episode, please subscribe to us on BBC Sounds by hitting the subscribe button on the app. You can now listen to Americast on a smart speaker. If you want to listen, just say "Ask BBC Sounds to play Americast”. It works on most smart speakers. US Election Unspun: Sign up for Anthony’s BBC newsletter: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68093155 Americast is part of the BBC News Podcasts family of podcasts. The team that makes Americast also makes lots of other podcasts, including The Today Podcast, and of course Newscast and Ukrainecast. If you enjoy Americast (and if you're reading this then you hopefully do), then we think that you will enjoy some of our other pods too. See links below. The Today Podcast: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p0gg4k6r Newscast: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/series/p05299nl Ukrainecast: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p0bqztzm
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  • If there's one thing that defines Donald Trump, it is immigration and specifically being tough on immigration.

  • It's always been a really key issue for him.

  • He sold himself to the American people on it and now he's got a friend who's helping him with it.

  • We can help him do it.

  • And we actually turned the murder capital of the world, that was the journalist's call,

  • murdered capital of the world to the safest country in the Western Hemisphere.

  • And sometimes they say that we increase in thousands.

  • I like to say that we actually liberated millions.

  • So, you know, like...

  • Very good.

  • Who gave him that line?

  • Do you think I can use that?

  • In fact, Mr. President, you have 350 million people to liberate him.

  • But to liberate 350 million people, you have to imprison some.

  • You know, that's the way it works, right?

  • The person you were hearing there in the White House, alongside Donald Trump, was President Naib Boukele of El Salvador,

  • a man who has, I suspect jokingly, but anyway, described himself as the world's coolest dictator.

  • Who is he?

  • What do they want from each other?

  • Could they really do business?