Why Harvard is fighting back

哈佛为何反击

Today, Explained

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2025-04-17

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Harvard is refusing to play along with the Trump administration's demands of elite universities, whereas at least 10 Florida public universities are openly cooperating with ICE. This episode was produced by Miles Bryan and Devan Schwartz, edited by Miranda Kennedy, fact checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Andrea Kristinsdottir and Patrick Boyd, and hosted by Sean Rameswaram. Listen to Today, Explained ad-free by becoming a Vox Member: vox.com/members. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast. Harvard University's unofficial turkey mascot during a February college basketball game. Photo by Erica Denhoff/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • Harvard University, birthplace of napalm, setting of legally blonde,

  • currently fighting back against the president in his war on higher education.

  • What, like it's hard?

  • You've surely heard about Harvard's showdown with President Trump.

  • He also wants to see Harvard apologize, and Harvard should apologize.

  • Just like you probably heard about the president's wins over at Columbia.

  • But on the far other side of the spectrum, we've got at least 10 Florida State universities.

  • These schools aren't fighting the president.

  • They're going in the complete opposite direction.

  • They're raising their hands up and waving them at ice, saying, come on in.

  • Here's our roster of students.

  • See anything you don't like?

  • Question.

  • Detain.

  • Go to town.

  • On Today Explained, we're going to take a look at the two extremes in this fight, fight, fight at American universities.

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  • in 2025.