How Russia - and Trump - shape Ukraine’s future

俄罗斯与特朗普如何塑造乌克兰的未来

World in 10

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2025-04-15

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Russia’s deadliest strike of the year in Sumy leaves Ukraine grieving and the world condemning, as Donald Trump controversially shifts blame onto Zelensky. Amid European concerns over Trump’s stance, James Nixey from Chatham House unpacks Russia’s disdain for diplomacy and the implications for peace. The World in 10 is the Times' daily podcast dedicated to global security. Expert analysis of war, diplomatic relations and cyber security from The Times' foreign correspondents and military specialists.  Watch more: www.youtube.com/@ListenToTimesRadio  Read more: www.thetimes.com  Photo: Getty Images Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • Welcome to The World in Ten.

  • In an increasingly uncertain world, this is The Times's daily podcast dedicated to global security.

  • To date with me, Tom Noonan and Stuart Willey.

  • Ukraine is mourning the dozens of people killed in a Russian missile strike in Sumi in the east of the country.

  • It was the deadliest attack so far this year,

  • prompting horror at graphic images of civilians killed on their way to church and widespread condemnation from world leaders.

  • But for Donald Trump, the strike was instead a mistake and he blamed Vladimir Zelensky for starting the war.

  • And that's worrying many in Ukraine,

  • including a senior MP who says it shows someone in Trump's entourage is pushing Russian narratives.

  • To dig into this, and what it all could mean for the prospects of peace,

  • we're joined by James Nixie, the head of the Russia Eurasia Programme at Chatham House.

  • James,

  • does this strike on what appears to be clearly civilian targets show something is changing in how Russia is conducting this war?

  • It shows a very little is changing in how Russia is fighting the war.

  • Russia's modus operandi is indeed pretty much a scorched earth policy.

  • If it can't control Ukraine, it will wreck it.

  • And that is precisely what it's doing.

  • It is failing to win, really, even at the diplomatic table right now,

  • although we can go into that in more detail, but it's certainly failing to win militarily, as it initially wanted.

  • That leaves Russia to exert its military superiority, which it still has.