Are credit investors nervous about recession risk?

信贷投资者是否对经济衰退风险感到紧张?

Goldman Sachs Exchanges

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2025-03-18

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In recent weeks, the extra yield that investors demand for investing in corporate bonds has risen substantially. Is this a sign that credit investors are becoming concerned about the economic outlook? Where are the opportunities in global credit markets now? Lotfi Karoui, Chief Credit Strategist and Head of Credit, Mortgages and Structured Products Research, discusses with Allison Nathan. This episode was recorded on March 14, 2025. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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  • There's understandably been a lot of attention paid to U.S. stocks recently,

  • but there's also something quite interesting happening in the U.S. bond market.

  • Corporate bond spreads that reflect the additional yield on corporate bonds above government bond yields have risen dramatically in the past month.

  • So what should we make of that?

  • Does it mean that bond investors are hunkering down for a recession?

  • I'm Allison Nathan, and this is Goldman Sachs exchanges.

  • Today, I'm joined by Latvi Kheroui,

  • our chief credit strategist and the head of credit, mortgages, and structured products research.

  • Latvi, welcome back to the program.

  • Thank you for having me.

  • So Latvi first catches up, there's a lot going on.

  • Give us some sense of what's been happening in the corporate bond markets in recent weeks.

  • Yeah,

  • so there is this general perception among many people

  • that corporate credit has sort of been resilient and it's outperformed its beta relationship to the equity market.

  • That's actually just optical illusion.

  • If you look at how much spread widening we've had since the peak of the market in mid-February,

  • it's been exactly equivalent to what you should expect with an S&P that is down roughly eight to eight and a half percent.

  • And so I think what's creating a little bit of confusion is really

  • that the starting level is so tight and optically it looks like investment grade spreads are still below 100 basis points,