Murder, malware - Putin's options after Trump shift

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  Foreign welcome to the world in 10 in an increasingly uncertain world.

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  This is the Times daily podcast dedicated to global security Today,

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  with me, Stuart Willey and Laura Cook.

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  Russia and Ukraine have reached a ceasefire agreement in the Black Sea aimed at safeguarding commercial shipping.

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  However, the deal comes at a price.

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  The White House is set to ease restrictions that have hit the Russian economy.

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  This latest move by the Trump administration administration has drawn fresh criticism,

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  particularly in light of recent reports that it's ordered a halt to efforts countering Russia's hybrid warfare operations.

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  Until now,

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  national security agencies had been coordinating closely with European allies and with each other,

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  but no longer.

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  Our guest today is Matt Pearl,

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  who directs the Strategic Technologies Program at the Centre for Strategic and International Studies think tank in Washington.

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  Matt, can you talk us through the agencies and the sort of activities they were involved in?

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  So we had a variety of efforts to confront what Russia was doing in cyberspace and through hybrid warfare in the Biden administration.

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  One was through Cyber Comm.

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  Cyber Command, which is controlled by DOD and does more military operations in cyberspace.

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  And then we had, on the defensive side of things,

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  we had CISA and other agencies that were trying to combat and deal with Russian cyber attacks,

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  but we also had the National Security Council, which was involved in all those issues.

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