No kids on the block

小区里没有孩子。

Today, Explained

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2025-03-21

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The pro-natalism movement argues that people need to have more babies. Some want to prevent economic implosion, others want to protect traditional family values. And some of the loudest voices in the movement are now in the White House. This episode was produced by Miles Bryan, edited by Jolie Myers and Miranda Kennedy, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Andrea Kristinsdottir, and hosted by Noel King. Further reading: The movement desperately trying to get people to have more babies. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast This episode was made in partnership with Vox's Future Perfect team. Support Today, Explained by becoming a Vox Member today: http://www.vox.com/members SpaceX and Tesla CEO Elon Musk holding one of his children on his shoulders. Photo by Riccardo De Luca/Anadolu via Getty Images. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • Birth rates around the world are declining.

  • Women are having fewer children.

  • The question of why this is is hotly debated.

  • And on Today Explained, we're going to talk to an expert who says she has an answer.

  • You have the option of going out with your friends,

  • getting dress coordinating, or you can just relax,

  • chill out on the sofa and watch a film or play a video game and maybe that's a bit easier,

  • a bit more relaxing when you've had a hard day, you just trash out and relax.

  • But the movement to get us to have more children publicly,

  • led by people like Vice President J.D. vance and Vice President Elon Musk,

  • is also controversial because it is led by Elon Musk,

  • who has as many as 14 children by four different mothers and by JD Vance,

  • who has suggested that non parents should get fewer votes than parents.

  • What should we make of the pronatalist movement?

  • That's coming up.

  • Shawn Ehling here, host of the Gray Area.

  • On our show, we delve into the ambiguities around the world's biggest questions,

  • which is why I spoke with Maggie Jackson.

  • Who wrote a book about the joys of uncertainty.

  • If we approach uncertainty, knowing it's a. Space of possibilities, then we, you know.