The phone call that could change the world

改变世界的电话

World in 10

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2025-03-18

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On Tuesday Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin will discuss Ukraine's future with the US President trying to persuade his Russian counterpart to agree to a ceasefire at least. So what goes into these diplomatic calls? Who plans them, how much are the plans adhered to and what is the ideal outcome for both sides? Think tank RUSI's Russian domestic politics specialist Emily Ferris and The Times' Assistant US Editor, David Charter, analyse how Putin and Trump are gearing up for a call the outcome of which whole world is waiting for. The World in 10 is the Times' daily podcast dedicated to global security. Expert analysis of war, diplomatic relations and cyber security from The Times' foreign correspondents and military specialists.  Watch more Read more Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • Welcome to the world in 10 in an increasingly uncertain world.

  • This is the Times daily podcast dedicated to global security.

  • I'm Toby Gillis, joined today by Alex Dibble.

  • Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin are to speak on the phone about Ukraine.

  • The US President says the division of Ukrainian assets,

  • including land and power plants, will be discussed,

  • but so far, they've been a long way apart on the terms of a ceasefire deal.

  • So what do both of them want from this call and how are they planning for it?

  • We'll look at each of them in turn, and we'll start with Putin with Emily Ferris,

  • who specializes in Russian domestic politics in the International Security Studies department at the think tank Rusi.

  • Emily, will Putin be going it alone in his planning for this,

  • or are there advisors he actually does trust helping him?

  • Oh, well, these are lots of big questions about whether, whether Russia has a strategy,

  • how many people really feed into that strategy,

  • whether Putin is a rational actor within his kind of his own frame of reference.

  • Look, I guess the answer to some of these things is, yes, Russia does have a strategy.

  • Putin does have a strategy.

  • It's an increasingly small group of people that make decisions,

  • key decisions, especially on big things like this.

  • One of the big problems, I think,