Why Ireland gets away with low defence spending

爱尔兰为何能以低国防开支为代价逃脱指责

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2025-03-14

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Ireland’s Taoiseach Michael Martin got through his trip to the White House this week without Donald Trump bringing up his country’s 0.24% defence budget. As defence chiefs from five key European countries meet in Paris, The Times' veteran foreign correspondent Michael Binyon assesses whether this new group can convince Europe’s low spenders to do more. The World in 10 is the Times' daily podcast dedicated to global security. Expert analysis of war, diplomatic relations and cyber security from The Times' foreign correspondents and military specialists.  Watch more: www.youtube.com/@ListenToTimesRadio  Read more: www.thetimes.com  Picture credit: Getty Images Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • Welcome to the world in 10 in an increasingly uncertain world.

  • This is the Times daily podcast dedicated to global security today with me,

  • Alex Dibble and Tom Noonan.

  • Ireland spends less than a quarter of a percent of GDP on defence.

  • That's one twentieth of what Donald Trump has said he wants from European nations.

  • Now, Ireland isn't a NATO member, but despite its very low defence spending, its Taoiseach,

  • Michel Martin,

  • received a warm welcome from the President when he visited the White House on Wednesday.

  • Of course, some other European nations who are NATO members also spend very little.

  • We'll be looking into this today

  • while also looking at a key European defense summit which went relatively unnoticed

  • as the world's attention was focused on the ceasefire talks between the us,

  • Ukraine and Russia.

  • In fact, we're going to start with that summit in Paris with our guest today,

  • the Times is Michael Binion,

  • who over the last 50 years has written for the paper from Washington D.C. moscow,

  • Brussels and the old West Germany.

  • Michael, was there anything new agreed at this meeting?

  • It feels like news from the summit has been lost.

  • As I said, amongst all the developments surrounding the ceasefire talks, it has rather.