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on the BBC World Service where we are asking how Russia is transforming occupied Eastern Ukraine.
The status of the self proclaimed Donetsk
and Luhansk people's republics is far less clear cut than it seems
and independent reporting from there extremely difficult.
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it's James in the newscast studio and Chris is on the line from Washington dc.
Hi, Chris.
Hello, James.
I am on a bus right now, back seat of the bus, almost the back seat,
but the toilet's just behind me and we're heading to the airport,
having just finished at the White House.
Yeah,
we spoke to you yesterday on your way to Washington
as the Prime Minister was preparing to meet the President.
Now it's all over, you're heading home.
What was it like?