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I'm David Marchese.
Even now, five years after it started, it's not an easy thing to understand all the lasting effects of the COVID 19 pandemic.
That's the case even, and maybe especially for people whose job it was to help the rest of us understand it.
The award winning science journalist and author Ed Yong was one of those people.
His reporting for the Atlantic magazine on the pandemic from its earliest stages to the plight of those suffering from long Covid earned him a Pulitzer Prize.
During that same period, his book An Immense World About Animal Perception became a bestseller.
But despite having achieved a level of success that most writers could only dream of, Yang's Covid reporting had left him emotionally drained.
In 2023, he quit his day job at the Atlantic.
Since then, one of the things that helped him recover is birding, a pastime that boomed in popularity during those years of social distancing and too much time stuck at home.
It was Yang's experience with those two subjects, burnout and getting back to nature, that I wanted to discuss, as well as his perspective on the lessons we learned, or maybe more accurately, didn't learn from COVID 19.
Here's my conversation with Ed Yong.
I wanted to start with a subject that I think a lot of people can relate to, which is burnout.