How Close Are We to Another Pandemic?

我们离下一次大流行还有多远?

The Daily

2025-02-13

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An outbreak of bird flu has been tearing through the nation’s dairy farms and infecting more and more people. Now there are troubling signs that the United States may be closer to another pandemic, even as President Trump dismantles the country’s public health system. Apoorva Mandavilli, who covers science and global health for The Times, explains how the virus has changed and why our government might be ill-equipped to respond.
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  • From the New York Times, this is THE Daily.

  • I'm Rachel Abrams.

  • Today,

  • an outbreak of bird flu has been tearing through the nation's dairy farms.

  • And infecting more and more people.

  • And now there are troubling signs that the United States might be closer to another pandemic,

  • even as President Trump dismantles the country's public health system.

  • My colleague Apoorva Mandabili explains how the virus has changed

  • and why our government might be ill equipped to respond.

  • It's Thursday, February 13th.

  • Apoorva, hello.

  • Hello.

  • So the last time we talked about bird flu on the show, which was last April,

  • our colleague Emily Anthes was raising a modest amount of concern about the virus.

  • She said it had been spreading pretty quickly and intensely in birds,

  • and also it had started to show up in other animals.

  • But at that point, it was not that much of a concern for people.

  • But it could be soon.

  • So since then, we've been checking in with you periodically just to ask, should we be worried now?

  • And.