Frontline special - Tim Willasey-Wilsey

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  Welcome to the world in 10 in an increasingly uncertain world.

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  This is the Times daily podcast dedicated to global security.

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  I'm Alex Dibble and I executive produce the podcast.

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  The World in 10 is partnered with Frontline, the interview series from Times radio,

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  available on YouTube with expert analysis of the world's conflicts.

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  At the weekend, we bring you Frontline interviews in full.

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  Here's one from this week.

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  I hope you find it interesting.

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  Hello and welcome to Frontline.

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  For Times Radio, I'm James Hansen, and today we're talking about the latest on the war in Ukraine.

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  And I'm delighted to be joined by Tim Willesy Wilsey,

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  a visiting professor of War Studies at King's College London and a former British diplomat.

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  Tim, it's always a pleasure.

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  Welcome back to Frontline.

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  Good to see you, James.

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  First of all, I wonder who, in your opinion of Russia and Ukraine,

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  needs peace talks more urgently, because it strikes me you could almost argue it both ways.

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  Do you have a view on who needs peace talks more urgently?

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  I think Ukraine needs peace talks more urgently.

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  I think the manpower problems they've been experiencing over the past year,

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