'The Interview': Digital Drugs Have Us Hooked. Dr. Anna Lembke Sees a Way Out.

“采访”:数字毒品让我们上瘾。安娜·伦布克博士看到了出路。

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2025-02-01

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The psychiatrist and author of “Dopamine Nation” wants us to find balance in a world of temptation and abundance.
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  • From the New York Times, this is the interview.

  • I'm Lulu Garcia Navarro.

  • We live in a moment where things are more available than ever.

  • You can whip out your phone right now and order lunch, bet on sports, listen to this podcast,

  • watch porn, buy a car, meet a friend, get therapy from an AI bot.

  • But all that convenience isn't making us any happier.

  • In fact, in the developed world, we are more lonely, anxious and depressed than ever.

  • Dr. Anna Lemke likens it to the plenty paradox.

  • The more we have, the less satisfied we are.

  • Lemke is a psychiatrist who works at Stanford University and she's written extensively,

  • including in her best selling book, Dopamine Nation, about the science behind addiction.

  • Turns out our brains are wired to constantly seek stimulation, which our modern era delivers in overdrive.

  • I'm sure if you look at your life,

  • maybe there's something you are are indulging in a little too frequently than is good for you.

  • For me, the turning point came at the start of the pandemic,

  • when my sister died of liver failure brought on by alcoholism, something I shared with Dr. Lembke before our interview.

  • It made me take a hard look at my life.

  • After a lifetime of obesity, I ended up taking Ozempic, which curtailed my obsessive relationship with food.

  • Then two years ago, I stopped drinking alcohol.

  • But while I feel physically great, it hasn't stopped some other destructive behaviors.