Thomas Friedman on Syria, the U.S. and Trump

托马斯·弗里德曼谈叙利亚、美国和特朗普

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2024-12-19

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  • This is the Opinions, a show that brings you a mix of voices from New York Times Opinion.

  • You've heard the news.

  • Here's what to make of it.

  • I'm Dan Waken, an international editor for New York Times Opinion.

  • And I'm Tom Friedman, the foreign affairs columnist for the New York Times.

  • Hi, Tom.

  • Morning, Dan.

  • So I wanted to talk to you about the situation in Syria and what it means for the Middle east as a whole.

  • It's been almost two weeks, weeks since Syria's dictator Bashar Al Assad was ousted after about 13 years of civil war.

  • This has been, as you've written, an earthquake for the Middle East, a game changer, really.

  • So I thought we could take the opportunity to talk through the ramifications

  • and how the Trump administration should respond.

  • But first, I have a question.

  • You've been covering and writing about the Middle east for a long time.

  • Basically for your entire career, you've seen different versions of the Assad regime in Syria.

  • I'm just curious.

  • Did you ever think this day would come?

  • Well, I certainly couldn't have predicted it, Dan, but I could have hoped for it.

  • You know, in your introduction, you said this happened after 13 years of civil war in Syria.

  • But actually the more relevant date is that it happened after more than 50 years of Assad family rule in Syria.