2025-01-08
30 分钟Welcome to Intelligence Squared, where great minds meet.
I'm head of Programming Conor Boyle.
Today's episode is part two of our live recording from our recent event in London's Pleasants Theatre with Lucy folks, academic psychologist at the University of Oxford and author of Coming Of Age How Adolescence Shapes Us.
Joining Lucy on stage to discuss it was journalist and broadcaster Pandora Sykes.
If you're an Intelligence Squared plus subscriber, you can get access to the full conversation right now, including our audience Q A.
Without further ado, let's get back in to part two with Lucy folks and Pandora Sykes.
What's obviously happening a lot now is people.
I mean, my kids.
School does it where you will sign a pact for your children not to have a phone before a certain age, which I am fine with.
But I sort of want to know what you think because I feel like you might.
I think there's something genuinely useful about parents being in it together because you don't want to be in a position where your teenager is the only one who doesn't have one, because that has its own social consequences.
So I think there is something useful about kind of banding together with other parents about to have this discussion that no one knows the answer to, about when is it that you gradually introduce this technology?
Also, I suppose the logistics of that would also, you know, at their school, they're 60 in a year, not 150.
Yeah, 150 parents becomes a different beast.
Yeah, exactly.
You're going to come up against this again and again.
Your point is always the adolescent anxiety is multifactorial and is something that we have heard a lot in that conversation, where it's got this very simple message, is that there's no other way to explain the sharp uptake in poor mental health and teenagers than smartphones.
But you believe this is correlation, not causation, don't you?
Can you talk a little bit about that kind of multifactorial element?
Yeah.