How Putin is dividing NATO

普京如何从内部瓦解欧洲防线?

The Story

2026-07-07

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NATO is gathering in Turkey for its annual summit, and defence spending, Iran and Ukraine are all on the agenda. But behind the scenes there are warnings that Putin is planning his next attack - on a NATO country. So what might that aggression look like? And is the alliance ready? This podcast was brought to you thanks to the support of readers of The Times and The Sunday Times. Subscribe today: http://thetimes.com/thestory Guest: Oliver Moody, Berlin correspondent, The Times and The Sunday Times. Host: Manveen Rana. Producers: Olivia Case and Shabnam Grewal. We want to hear from you - email: thestory@thetimes.com Read more: Putin the agent of chaos revelling in division between US and Europe Further listening: Defence spending: too little too late?  Clips: France 24, @MaxAfterburnerusa / YouTube, @joeycontinonews / YouTube, TVP Info, BBC, Sky, The Guardian, GB News, Fox News, USA Today, CBC.  Photo: Getty Images. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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  • From The Times and The Sunday Times, this is The Story.

  • I'm Manveen Rana.

  • Countries across NATO have been warning for years about the looming threat that Russia poses.

  • But it's not often that they go to such lengths to raise the alarm in public.

  • I would not exclude the Russians doing some kind of false flag operation against Russian territory

  • in order to have a pretext for hitting one of the NATO countries.

  • In a series of interviews ahead of the NATO summit which begins today,

  • the Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski has been warning the public about what Russia might do next.

  • He could put together some Ukrainian drones from bits found on the battlefield

  • and send drones into the Kaliningrad enclave, which is Russian territory,

  • and then pretend that he's been attacked and therefore he has to return fire.

  • On Friday, he even issued a direct warning to the Kremlin.

  • Our message to Vladimir Putin is this: We know what you're planning.

  • Do not do it.

  • As Russia's attempts at sabotage and cyberattacks grow bolder and more intense,

  • some members of the security establishment in Europe are breaking cover

  • to describe how Putin is trying to unleash chaos across the continent.

  • But as the leaders of NATO countries, including one Donald Trump,

  • gather in Ankara for fractious debates about defense spending, Iran, and Ukraine,

  • could this be the most dangerous moment in the history of the alliance?