David Remnick on Putin’s endgame

大卫·雷姆尼克谈普京的最后阶段

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2022-02-26

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This week, Russia launched an unprovoked attack on Ukraine — beginning what could be the largest war in Europe in decades. Apple News Today host Shumita Basu spoke with New Yorker editor David Remnick, a longtime expert on Russia, about how we got here and what this war means for the U.S. and the rest of the world.
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  • This is in conversation from Apple News Today.

  • I'm Shemitah Basu.

  • Every weekend, we're taking you deeper into the best journalism on Apple News.

  • This past week, what so many people feared became reality.

  • Russia attacked Ukraine from the air and from the ground.

  • Russia overnight launched its long anticipated attack on Ukraine, striking military posts across the country.

  • An unprovoked war in Europe is now underway.

  • Within hours, Russian tanks were reported to be on the streets of Ukraine's second largest city, Kharkiv.

  • Ukrainians worst nightmare now realize thousands trying to flee the capital Kyiv, either stuck in gridlock or unable to fill their cars with the gas needed to get out.

  • It's been decades since we've seen war in Europe on this scale.

  • Just in the last few days, we went from serious talks about de escalation and summits to Russian rockets dropping on Kyiv.

  • It might seem like things suddenly escalated, but there are decades of history worth understanding here.

  • That's why I wanted to talk to David Remnick.

  • He's the editor of the New Yorker and he's covered Russia for a long time.

  • His book about the fall of the Soviet Union won a Pulitzer Prize.

  • He is very familiar with Vladimir Putin's mentality.

  • I asked Remnik if he expected Putin to go after Ukraine with so much force.

  • Well, if you had asked me a year ago, no, of course not.

  • But the pattern for Vladimir Putin is when he sets things like this into motion, obviously this is of a larger scale.

  • He carries them out.