2023-12-01
29 分钟This is in conversation from Apple News.
I'm Shemitah Basu.
Today, Rachel Maddow on America's history fighting fascism.
Hi, Rachel, Shemitah here.
Nice to meet you.
It's really nice to meet you.
Thank you for doing this.
Oh, thank you for your time.
You know Rachel Maddow from her show on MSNBC where she offers her commentary on current affairs and politics.
But she's also a serious history buff.
There's a reason, I think, to learn this stuff, and it has some real fireworks.
Last year, Rachel came out with a podcast called Ultra, about the rise of fascism in the US during the World War II era.
Now she's out with a book that takes an even deeper dive into that particular chapter of US History.
It's called An American Fight Against Fascism.
I do think that it's worth being real about the fact that we had an ultra right nationalist, anti democratic, pro fascist, in some cases pro Nazi movement that was of considerable size and considerable influence here in the United States in the lead up to World War II.
Some of the themes might sound eerily familiar.
Insurrectionists who try to overthrow the government, popular figures who use their platforms to spread disinformation.
Foreign agents who use members of Congress to disseminate propaganda.
And through it all, government employees and regular Americans working tirelessly to do the right thing to keep American democracy on track.
Rachel argues that knowing this history can teach us how to respond to threats to democracy happening today.