The Convert

This American Life

社会与文化

2021-12-03

59 分钟
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In 2006, a new convert showed up at a mosque in Orange County, California. Known as Farouk al-Aziz, the convert was actually an FBI informant named Craig Monteilh. That informant’s infiltration of the mosque is at the heart of FBI v Fazaga, a case heard at the Supreme Court last month. We return to our episode from 2012, which tells the story behind it. Prologue: At a Muslim community center in New York, two lawyers teach a workshop on how to react when an FBI agent shows up at the door asking questions. The workshop is a project of CLEAR — Creating Law Enforcement Accountability and Responsibility — at the City University of New York School of Law. (9  minutes) Gym Rat: In the summer of 2006, an FBI official visited a mosque in Orange County, California. His intention was to reassure the community that they weren't being spied on. But a few months later, an undercover informant named Craig Monteilh showed up at the mosque. Monteilh says he¹d been sent there to catch terrorists. But his behavior was so odd that Monteilh himself came under suspicion. Documentary filmmaker Sam Black reports the story. (25 minutes) Act Two: The story of Craig Monteilh continues: What happens when you turn someone into the FBI who, it turns out, is working for the FBI? Trevor Aaronson, whom Sam Black interviewed for this story, has a book called The Terror Factory: Inside the FBI’s Manufactured War on Terrorism. (21 minutes)
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  • From WBEZ Chicago, it's this American Life.

  • I'm Ira Glass.

  • So back in 2012, we ran this completely outrageous story about some stuff that the FBI did about an undercover informant who spied on American Muslims for over a year.

  • And it went badly.

  • Like, spectacularly badly.

  • And some of those people who were spied on, some of the people in the story, sued the US Government because of it.

  • It's taken years to wind through the courts, but just last month, it was argued before the US Supreme Court.

  • So today, I want to play you the story and also talk about the court case.

  • A little some context for the story before we start.

  • It's about FBI surveillance of Muslims.

  • Ever since 9 11, there's been a ton of that.

  • And just to give a sense of what that means, our original episode opened in Queens, New York City.

  • One Saturday night at a community center.

  • Three dozen people show up.

  • Their kids run around.

  • Before it starts, coffee in the back.

  • It's a workshop run by two lawyers, Ramzi Qasim and Diala Shamas, who are with a project called Clear from the City University of New York Law School that gives free legal aid to Muslims who get caught up in counterterrorism surveillance investigations.

  • So what we want to do today is nothing controversial.

  • We just want to arm you with the knowledge of your rights so that you know how to respond when you find yourself.

  • If you find yourself in that really uncomfortable situation where you have an FBI agent at your door or an NYPD detective at your workplace asking to talk to you.