A quick warning.
There are curse words that are unbeeped in today's episode of the show.
If you prefer a beeped version, you can find that at our website, thisamericanlife.org the new guy had been there for a month, and he was coming to meetings all the time.
And the meetings were on Zoom, but he never turned on his camera.
One of his co workers, Phil, says, that wasn't a big deal.
Lots of people do that.
This was a tech startup.
Maybe it's just engineers.
Maybe it's our company culture.
Like, I always have my camera off.
But then his fourth week on the job, the new guy turned it on.
And then that's when I was like, what the?
Like, who is this guy?
And when you say, who is this guy?
Why?
What were you seeing versus what you were expecting to see?
Well, so when I interviewed him, he had his camera on, and literally he looked different.
Like, physically just different.
Also, during the job interview, every time this guy would answer a question, he'd give this big smile.
Like, it was almost as if he was, like, tying a bow around his answer.