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When Pip arrived at the station he was wet through and pretty terrified.
I brought in an expert to talk to him.
It was really essential that we got whatever information we could.
My name is Evan Riley.
I'm a child psychologist.
I work with the police on cases involving very young children.
Evan's great.
Yeah, really puts them at ease.
He does a lot of work with toys and stories.
Gets them drawing their own pictures.
When working with children, you've got to play the long game, really.
It takes time for them to trust you,
to talk and open up, depending on what they've been through.
Of course, the police are always in a hurry, so you've got to manage expectations a bit.
I can't tell if he's witnessed anything truly traumatic.
He's not particularly chatty, which is fair enough.
Poor sod.
He's tired.