Is the US better at TV chat than Britain? Pop Culture with Chanté Joseph

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• 00:00

  This is the Guardian.

• 00:10

  Hey, guys, I just wanted to let you know that this week's episode covers a lot and we have some swearing and a reference to suicide.

• 00:23

  Do British chat shows know the art of a good conversation?

• 00:26

  All right, Jeff says he's here to.

• 00:28

  Confront a bad one night stand.

• 00:31

  Welcome to the show.

• 00:32

  Well, today, the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

• 00:36

  I have to tell you, almost every day we have a segment called Truth News.

• 00:40

  And almost every day on the show we've been talking about Spice World.

• 00:43

  He climbed up and I said, what are you doing?

• 00:47

  You're listening to pop culture with me, Shantae Joseph for the Guardian.

• 00:58

  Jerry Springer died, guys.

• 01:02

  He passed away last week.

• 01:04

  I saw, while I was scrolling on Twitter, and I was so shocked.

• 01:08

  The Jerry Springer show was extremely controversial, but he was a messy king that ran so everything from wild reality TV to Jeremy Kyle could walk.

• 01:25

  But beyond Jerry Springer and American chat shows in general, it feels like there is something that they have that the Brits just can't replicate.

• 01:34

  So what is it?

• 01:37

  I caught up with friend of the show and pop culture expert Michael Hogan to talk about this.

• 01:42

  I want to start by painting a picture.

• 01:44

  When I was younger, me and my friends used to go into the assembly hall during lunch break at school, go on the stage, set up three chairs and one pretend mic, which was probably a pencil case.

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