Bill Browder

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The Big Interview

2023-05-10

31 分钟
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Hedge-fund manager and political activist Bill Browder shares his insights on Russia’s war in Ukraine and how he became Vladimir Putin’s enemy. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  • What has become clear to me is that there's not a single person in Russia who goes into public service,

  • into the government, with the intention of doing anything other than stealing.

  • Not one from the lowest traffic cop right up to the President.

  • Everybody goes to make money.

  • They don't go there to do their job.

  • And of course, the higher you get into the hierarchy, the more money you get to steal.

  • And Putin did that like everybody else.

  • So once he arrested the richest oligarch in Russia, all the other oligarchs went to him and said,

  • what do we have to do so we don't get arrested?

  • And he said, real simple, 50%.

  • So he gets 50% of all the oligarch's money, and then every single deal that ever gets done,

  • every single crime that ever gets committed, he gets 50% of that.

  • If the world has come to learn one thing about President Vladimir Putin of Russia,

  • it is that he bears grudges.

  • One of his longest standing vendettas concerns this week's guest, Bill Browder.

  • Browder was among the cohort of buccaneering capitalists who went to Russia to seek their fortunes in the post Communist chaos of the 1990s.

  • Browder certainly found his fortune.

  • At one point, his investment fund, Hermitage Capital, was.

  • Was managing over US$4 billion in assets.

  • Browder and Hermitage eventually attracted the attention and the ire of Russian authorities vexed by his campaigns of shareholder activism against corruption.