The War For Kindness

仁慈之战

The Happiness Lab with Dr. Laurie Santos

2020-06-22

35 分钟
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Feeling you belong to a group can be great - but it also has a darker side, leading us down an unhappy path of hatred and violence towards people with different identities and backgrounds. Dr Laurie Santos talks to Mina Cikara - whose homeland descended into a bloody civil war - and Jamil Zaki about how we can fight hatred with empathy, kindness and difficult conversations. (Deep canvassing clips courtesy of The Leadership Lab https://leadership-lab.org/ at the Los Angeles LGBT Center.) For an even deeper dive into the research we talk about in the show visit happinesslab.fm Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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  • Pushkin.

  • I'm not a groupie person really at all.

  • I don't really care about sports.

  • I don't really care about teams.

  • I did not care about baseball at all.

  • I really was only there because I was so smitten with him.

  • Mina Chikara is telling me about an early date she had with her husband, Carrie.

  • Carrie is an avid Boston Red Sox fan.

  • So they decided to check out a game against the Sox's arch rivals, the Yankees.

  • And they did so in enemy territory, Yankee Stadium.

  • He is a little bit risk-seeking, and so he decided to wear his Red Sox hat to this game.

  • Even just getting off at the subway station was already a bunch of jokes and ribbing and look at this guy.

  • And what was really interesting to me, though, was that it seemed very good-hearted at first, right?

  • It was just sort of people enacting the script.

  • But as the game wore on, The score got closer and closer, and the entire stadium grew tense.

  • The banter stopped being playful, and Kerry wasn't reacting well.

  • So at some point,

  • I decided I'm going to take the hat from him because I don't want him to get into a fist fight here.

  • So I didn't have anywhere to put this hat,

  • so I put it on my own head thinking, I'm not a fan of either team.