Musa al-Gharbi on Elite Wokeness, Islam, and Social Movements

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  hello everyone, and welcome back to conversations with Tyler.

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  Today I'm happy to be chatting with Musa Algarby.

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  He is a sociologist, an assistant professor at Stony Book, already a very well known public intellectual, and October 8 is the publication date for his new and excellent book, we have never been woke the cultural contradictions of a new elite.

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  Musa, welcome.

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  Thank you so much for being here.

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  And thank you so much for your kind words on the book.

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  I'm sure you've been thinking about this question, but how much is the distribution of wokeness amongst the elites, as we saw maybe three or four years ago?

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  Is that something sociologically necessary, or was that extremely contingent and dependent on a whole host of factors ranging from zero interest rate policy to the rise of Trump, Covid and other matters?

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  Are we out of that moment already?

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  I have published an essay where I argued the great awokening does seem to be winding down in the book.

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