Cathedrals Have a Body Count

大教堂有死亡人数统计

Love and Radio

社会与文化

2019-11-07

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  • When I was very little, maybe four or five, I read the children's version of the greek mythologies, and quickly the greek gods became my favorite gods.

  • And I decided that if I was going to believe in a God, I would prefer to believe in those.

  • I think I named my first pet, Hermes, after the greek messenger God, who was also the God of thieves and lawyers.

  • The thing I loved about the greek gods were that they were extra human.

  • They were gods, they were immortal and all of that, but they had all of the characteristics and all the foibles of human beings.

  • They would get angry, they would get jealous, they would cheat, they would steal, they would lie.

  • There was this notion of this is all somehow wonderful, wonderful, in part because it just is.

  • It's inescapable.

  • We can be better.

  • We can have our better days, our worst days.

  • We can have our better representatives of our species.

  • Our worst representatives of our species.

  • But the point is, is that we are all of these things.

  • We have to, on some level, accept that, not just accept it as well.

  • I guess this is, unfortunately, the way it is, but maybe it's part of the thing itself.

  • The pyramids had a body count.

  • Cathedrals have a body count.

  • In our aspirations towards a kind of magnificence, towards a kind of transcendence of ourselves, we also excel in hurting people.

  • From luminary media, you're listening to love and radio.

  • I'm Nick van der Kolk.