My name is Rishi K. Shirwe.
I'm the producer of Song Exploder, and I'm usually the host,
but for this episode, I wanted to try something different.
I'm handing the interviewing and hosting duties over to someone else.
Back in 2016, I did an episode with Tao Nguyen from the band Tao and the Get Down, Stay Down,
and we had such a great conversation,
and I thought she really got the heart of what this podcast is about.
So I asked her, and she said yes.
There's also brand new intro music just for this, made by another past guest, Julian Baker.
This episode was really fun to make, and I hope you like it.
Here we go.
You're listening to Song Exploder, where musicians take apart their songs and,
piece by piece, tell the story of how they were made.
My name is Tao Nguyen.
Ninko Case is a singer and songwriter.
She's been nominated for multiple Grammys, and in addition to her own music,
she's a member of the band The New Pornographers.
And when Rishi Keshe asked me to guest host an episode,
Nico Case was who I was most excited to interview.
I'll be touring solo with her this fall, and I've been a fan of hers for years.